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Re: How to do server side custom matchmaking
Hi @arya_harshwardhan,
Thank you for choosing Photon!
I want to add updates and clarifications:
The plugins we have now in the Photon Server Plugins SDK are GameServer plugins which intervene only when the room is created so they can't be used for matchmaking without adding something else.
There could be some new addition regarding this in Photon Server v5 for SQL lobbies.
I will double check this and get back to you.
Otherwise, there may be other custom options for you if you want this but this requires special services/contract.
If you want to go this way, send an email to [email protected] to request this.
But what you could do is to make matchmaking external to Photon, via HTTP based web service maybe, and then use Photon just to create and join rooms (or one call JoinOrCreate).
Such matchmaking service could make use of (combined with) Photon's "native HTTP modules" (Custom Authentication / WebRPCs / WebHooks) or even a custom plugin to report rooms availability to your web service.
Things to consider: Region, AppVersion, AppId, UserId, RoomName/GameId, Auth Cookie, URL tags, etc.
Another options is to modify LoadBalancing server application, MasterServer specifically, the matchmaking part. This option is for self-hosted only of course.
There is also the option to do this only using client only but still you need a way to save the list of the players you encountered in the last four rooms you joined. If you're happy to do it locally you could:
- keep calling JoinRandomRoom until a room that does not have a player we encountered in the last previous rooms is there. You could change MatchmakingMode here if the lobby type is not SQL Lobby.
- call JoinRandomRoom with a custom filter (userIDs of players to skip) to avoid all these players and expose the room's players' UserIDs in the lobby (not recommended).
- [to avoid rejoining old rooms but you still need to avoid rooms that have users you encountered in the last 4 rooms] create rooms with PlayerTTL == -1, leave rooms with LeaveRoom(true); this way the actor remains in the room inactive and can't be matched in a previously joined room. you need to keep same UserID though.
Thank you for choosing Photon!
I want to add updates and clarifications:
The plugins we have now in the Photon Server Plugins SDK are GameServer plugins which intervene only when the room is created so they can't be used for matchmaking without adding something else.
There could be some new addition regarding this in Photon Server v5 for SQL lobbies.
I will double check this and get back to you.
Otherwise, there may be other custom options for you if you want this but this requires special services/contract.
If you want to go this way, send an email to [email protected] to request this.
But what you could do is to make matchmaking external to Photon, via HTTP based web service maybe, and then use Photon just to create and join rooms (or one call JoinOrCreate).
Such matchmaking service could make use of (combined with) Photon's "native HTTP modules" (Custom Authentication / WebRPCs / WebHooks) or even a custom plugin to report rooms availability to your web service.
Things to consider: Region, AppVersion, AppId, UserId, RoomName/GameId, Auth Cookie, URL tags, etc.
Another options is to modify LoadBalancing server application, MasterServer specifically, the matchmaking part. This option is for self-hosted only of course.
Not nice but a "cheap" option to mention (not tested and not recommended):add some custom matchmaking features such as, if i have played a match with a player i cannot play next four matches with this same player etc.
There is also the option to do this only using client only but still you need a way to save the list of the players you encountered in the last four rooms you joined. If you're happy to do it locally you could:
- keep calling JoinRandomRoom until a room that does not have a player we encountered in the last previous rooms is there. You could change MatchmakingMode here if the lobby type is not SQL Lobby.
- call JoinRandomRoom with a custom filter (userIDs of players to skip) to avoid all these players and expose the room's players' UserIDs in the lobby (not recommended).
- [to avoid rejoining old rooms but you still need to avoid rooms that have users you encountered in the last 4 rooms] create rooms with PlayerTTL == -1, leave rooms with LeaveRoom(true); this way the actor remains in the room inactive and can't be matched in a previously joined room. you need to keep same UserID though.
JohnTube
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Re: How to make trigger of a scene object work only for local player?
Hi,
You should only allow trigger detection on the local player ( ismine = true) and send an RPC to all client to play that sound, then you don't need any network instantiation for that sound.
Bye,
Jean
You should only allow trigger detection on the local player ( ismine = true) and send an RPC to all client to play that sound, then you don't need any network instantiation for that sound.
Bye,
Jean
Re: How to do server side custom matchmaking
Hi,
To make server side matchmaking, you will need a custom dedicated server and create a plugin for this, we also provide an enterprise plan if you want to benefit from our cloud distribution yet want a dedicated server setup, including custom plugins.
https://www.photonengine.com/en-US/Server/pricing
https://www.photonengine.com/en-US/PUN/pricing
Bye,
Jean
To make server side matchmaking, you will need a custom dedicated server and create a plugin for this, we also provide an enterprise plan if you want to benefit from our cloud distribution yet want a dedicated server setup, including custom plugins.
https://www.photonengine.com/en-US/Server/pricing
https://www.photonengine.com/en-US/PUN/pricing
Bye,
Jean
Re: Hi, how to prevent the same IP to enter more than 2 or 3 times to my game (web-based)?
Hi @Siggy2020,
Thank you for choosing Photon!
I will add the following to @jeanfabre's answer:
- you could make use of custom authentication by sending the IP to the authentication endpoint to verify if it's not already connected, you could prevent a user from authenticating based on this.
- you could make use of WebHooks + Actor Properties to know from your web server which IP address (actor) is joined to which room (but WebHooks can't help preventing a client from joining, you could only prevent from creating rooms).
So there are two things:
1- how to know the IP address of each user
2- how to know if an IP address is being used or not
Thank you for choosing Photon!
I will add the following to @jeanfabre's answer:
- you could make use of custom authentication by sending the IP to the authentication endpoint to verify if it's not already connected, you could prevent a user from authenticating based on this.
- you could make use of WebHooks + Actor Properties to know from your web server which IP address (actor) is joined to which room (but WebHooks can't help preventing a client from joining, you could only prevent from creating rooms).
So there are two things:
1- how to know the IP address of each user
2- how to know if an IP address is being used or not
JohnTube
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Re: Kill player over network?
Well. If a player knows that the character was shot, the shot itself has a sender. So you could derive who killed the character?
The Basics Tutorial has two robots shooting one another and a health value. I don't know, if it explicitly shows who shot who.
https://doc.photonengine.com/en-us/pun/current/demos-and-tutorials/pun-basics-tutorial/
The Basics Tutorial has two robots shooting one another and a health value. I don't know, if it explicitly shows who shot who.
https://doc.photonengine.com/en-us/pun/current/demos-and-tutorials/pun-basics-tutorial/
Tobias
5
Re: Client-side prediction for new objects?
Client side prediction exists so that player input can be immediately responded to locally, a projectile that does not react to input doesn't need this. There are many ways to sync projectiles, you can see a few examples here. https://trello.com/c/XZrcCWnV/54-projectile-networking-samples
Re: Importing in "Non-tutorial" mode?
I'm not sure what errors you're referring to after deleting States from Bolt Assets. All samples are within a package that comes with Photon Bolt, they only enter the project if you import them.
Re: Voice Chat Echo and Mac Built In Mike issue
Hi @SaravanaPerumal,
What Photon MicrophoneType did you use?
Did you try adding WebRtcAudioDsp to the same GameObject as the Recorder and enable AEC?
Otherwise:
Any reason for you to stay at Photon Voice 2.13 and not move to 2.15?
What Photon MicrophoneType did you use?
Did you try adding WebRtcAudioDsp to the same GameObject as the Recorder and enable AEC?
Otherwise:
Any reason for you to stay at Photon Voice 2.13 and not move to 2.15?
JohnTube
5
Re: What happens when I add a list of expected users counting more than the Max Player Per Room option?
Hi @CreativeMango,
Thank you for choosing Photon!
Well doesn't hurt to test/try it.
The room creation will fail and you will get an error response.
If you implement the OnCreateRoomFailed callback you will get an error code: InvalidOperation = -2 and error message: "Reserved slots count is bigger then max player value".
Thank you for choosing Photon!
Well doesn't hurt to test/try it.
The room creation will fail and you will get an error response.
If you implement the OnCreateRoomFailed callback you will get an error code: InvalidOperation = -2 and error message: "Reserved slots count is bigger then max player value".
JohnTube
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