# Max Players per Channel?

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Hello!

On the "Pricing" page, the max amount of players per channel seems to be 10, with one update every second, before it exceeds the 100 msg/s limit.

But usually the players won't write a message every second and most of them will be idle.
So in theory, can we have 20 players and only 5 of them sending messages every second and still be below the 100 msg/s limit? 5x20x1?
And then i would need to add a cap to the amount of messages a player can send? So if too many messages were sent in the last x seconds, the player needs to wait until he can send more?

What max player count is actually possible?
For a chat room, 10-20 still feels quite low...

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Hi, Lizzard4000

there is no limit for users count

best,
ilya
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So you tell me i should ignore the "Up to 100 messages per second and channel are allowed" part and just allow as many players as i want?
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edited January 2018
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Hi @Lizzard4000,

Thank you for choosing Photon!

As @chvetsov mentioned there is no limit for the number of subscribers per a channel and there is no limit of total chat users per app.

I do not understand your concern. The 100msg/s per channel should be enough to have 100 subscribers send a message every second inside a channel.
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Thanks for the answer @JohnTube !

I'm a bit confused, because if i set the "Players per Channel" to 100 and "Messages per Player & Second" to 1, i get a result of 10,000 "Total per Second & Channel", on the pricing page.

But if you tell me that 100 players in one room is not too much then i'm relieved : )
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edited January 2018
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Hi @Lizzard4000,

after posting on the other discussion here I found out that I was indeed wrong in the comment above.

Here is how to count messages in chat (applies to both public and private channels):

# msgs / second / channel = N * X * (N + 1)

N = # subscribers inside the channel
X = # msgs per subscriber per second

for private channels, N = 2

so for
N = 100
X = 1
==> 10100